Fringe Review: 3.14 6B

Welcome to our review for episode 14 of Fringe season 3 – “6B”.

In this review we provide honest opinions on the good and the bad aspects of the episode. We identify the answers that were provided and the mysteries that remain locked away. We take an in-depth look at other aspects of the episode that made an impression on us, before rounding off the review with our final thoughts and episode rating.

THE GOOD

  • Myth You. I thought the story was more interesting than the previous episode. It included more mythological elements, while blending them together with an underlying humanity.
  • Theme. One of my favorite aspects of the Fringe storytelling is the creative use of thematics. The episode translated the idea that (in many ways) our realities are influenced by our emotions. It was great to see this long-held themes surface in this way.
  • Walter. For me, Walter’s challenge is redemption, so that’s largely the criteria on which I view the character. I don’t need him to be perfect, I understand that he is flawed, but I needed something to make me warm to him again. I was therefore encouraged by the direction of his character in this episode. He made progressive steps and finally seemed to recognize the fine line between letting go and persevering.
THE BAD

  • Contrivances. I had hoped the days of gaping contrivances were left behind in the furnace with Charlie. Such hopes continue to go up in smoke with plot holes and character actions glossed over to bend the story.
  • Suprise Me Nots. Similar to the previous episode, I thought it was all a bit predictable – perhaps too caught up with getting Olivia and Peter into bed? I don’t see what Peter has done between Marionette and this episode to change Olivia’s mind? Perhaps the idea here is that she’s determined to hold on to him, reinforced by the episode’s under-story which brought about a catharsis. Still, I don’t buy it. It all seems more ‘baby plot‘ orientated than character mapped.
  • No Questions Asked. Aside from the Walter/Nina scene, I thought the story’s resolution was a bit convenient. For instance, what happens if Alice gets lonely one cold winters night and seeks out glowy Derek once more? Can we really trust her feelings not to wander-land?
  • Peter and Olivia. I sense that Fringe is in danger of becoming beguiled by its own Peter and Olivia love story. One of my hopes at the start of the season was for the Olivia/Peter romance not to dominate proceedings. Well, it’s dominating more than Olivia dominates Peter in the bedroom. Yes, there’s escalation and other merits, but I’m finding that the ‘story’ has suffered as a result of this particular path. I’m sure it will have its bright spots, but there’s a level of sensationalism developing that I find unappealing. Oh look, Olivia sleeps with Peter just to find out that he’s a daddy on the other side. Like the fabric of the universe, it’s becoming a touch transparent.
  • Um. Machine-tuned, shapeshifter-killing, Peter? That’s not really an act you can tuck under the cushion for 5-6 episodes and just pick back up. At one point I was even worrying for Walter’s safety, but it appears Peter’s ID Monster has fallen asleep.
BIG MYSTERIES

  • Where do the vortexes lead?
  • Can Peter let go of Altlivia? Will he want to?
BIG ANSWERS

  • The soft spot became thinner because Alice Merchant over here and Derek Merchant over there were both grieving for their respective partners. Once Alice realized that she wasn’t seeing the ghost of the man she loved, the connection broke. One would assume these ‘over here’ soft spots will present problems in the future.
  • Intense emotions can allow a non ‘Cortexiphaned’ individual to see the parallel universe, under the right circumstances.
FRINGE THOUGHTS

  • The episode opens with a couple talking small-talk. It’s Olivia and Peter. Oh, wait, it’s just some random couple who will help inform today’s story. They’re going to a gathering at a building that Missus Marcello can’t wait to leave. If someone tells me “good luck” before I step into an elevator, I’m making a dash for the doors. I’ve watched Power Hungry and Concentrate.
  • Mrs Marcello tells Jimmy that she hasn’t slept in weeks – Jimmy takes his mind out from the gutter and tells her it’s not that bad.
  • Up in apartment 7C there are signs of spooky goings-on. Everything, and I mean everything points to GHOSTS – or perhaps it’s the fabric of the universe struggling to hold itself together? Which do you think sounds more crazy?
  • Interesting that Silvia began to choke moments before the universe became porous. I assuming that’s just a coincidental detail and not her double from the other side throwing a peanut down her throat? That’s when the bodies hit the floor – reminding me somewhat of “Bad Dreams”.

  • Not sure how Chris fell through the balcony? It looked like he moved from that position when Silvia began choking. Perhaps the way it was shot just gave me that false impression?
  • At home with the Bishops. Walter says there haven’t been any new cases for the past couple of weeks. I call BS on that. There’s always something strange in the neighborhood, and there’s that little matter of the Boom-Boom-Machine. Surely there’s SOMETHING they could be getting on with? That’s the problem I have with Blue universe Fringe Division – they’re not very proactive, especially considering there’s a war being mounted against them by the forces of Walternate.
  • Walter really wants to see Peter in that purple tuxedo, so he fixes Peter and Olivia a romantic breakfast date. Why breakfast and not a candle-lit dinner? Because there’s a fresh case coming in any minute now and Peter has some shapeshifters to kill tonight. Walter’s considerate like that.
  • The love-story that has been forced on us is becoming rather tiresome, but it’s useful to hear Walter say he misses Olivia, while confirming that our two lovebirds haven’t been seeing much of each other since Olivia discovered that Boy Wonder still wonders about Altlivia.
  • Peter wants privacy and gently tells Walter that his love life in none of his concern. Walter, more right than he knows, tells Peter “your happiness is my concern”. Because as we’d soon discover, there was a much bigger, more human, aspect to the falling balcony mystery. One person’s feelings can have a meta consequence, especially in this story.
  • Ha! Peter begs Walter not to “force things”, I could say the same for his ‘romance’ with Olivia. Take it down a notch!

  • A knock at the door, Peter looks..haunted, like a deer with a broken leg, trapped in the headlights of a big tractor. Walter runs like a child to the door. It’s Olivia! That most broken of all the Os.
  • Olivia thought she was there for some mythology-action, instead she sees two candles and a table of breakfast treats, including blueberry pancakes – “a Bishop family recipe, best eaten while still warm”. Peter gets aroused, Olivia uncomfortable.
  • Peter tells her it’s all Walter’s idea, that he wants them to spend time together

O-livia: “A threesome?”

  • Horrified, yet curious, Peter says “no, just the two”. Walter puts on some sensual music and skulks out the door like a cat who has just peed on the floor.
  • Peter tries his luck, but it’s all too much for Olivia who decides to march on back to the office. Peter stops her, and says they might as well talk (sex) while they have the house to themselves. Standing like a soldier, protecting herself, Olivia doesn’t know what to say. She would very much like to talk (sex) but Simon had to go give her that damn letter containing Peter’s sexy-thoughts about Altlivia. It’s a barrier to the bedroom.
  • Peter admits that he hasn’t told her everything, but if she would just step into his room, he’d show her his Mythology Porn and the rag he uses to wipe shapeshifter blood from his hands.
  • Peter knows a few good men, but admits that he’s unsure if Olivia can handle the truth, “I know that you struggle with trust issues and you have a difficult time letting people in”. Olivia has clearly watched Over There – Part 1, where Peter tells Altlivia that Olivia was a haunted mess who made problems up. It was a bit too heavy on the paint there, but I’m glad Olivia put Peter straight, “I’m not making them up”.
  • As I said at the time, Peter isn’t in Olivia shoes so it was unfair of him to say that. Of course it’s all about perspective, and perhaps Olivia could be quicker with a smile, but to all but blame someone for taking things too personally (especially when crazy stuff HAS happened to that person) instead of helping them to handle things better, is poor form from Peter.

  • Peter says that he still thinks about Altlivia because he’s spent so long:

“imagining going down that path with you, imagining what it would be like waking up in a bed next to you, to sit around just the two of us having a cup of coffee, reading a paper, and then finally, I had it. I’ve seen what the two of us together looks like, and it’s beautiful”

  • I do sympathize with Peter, and I don’t doubt that the story wants us to believe that he has feeeeeeelings for Olivia. But as I’ve said throughout the season, it’s impossible to untangle his love for Olivia and Altlivia. Impossible. He fell in love with Olivia, but he went places with Altlivia that he couldn’t have gone with Olivia. How do you divide the two? He can’t, not if he’s being really honest. And to be honest, Olivia has to understand that if she’s still willing to jump into bed with the man. Otherwise, let it go.
  • It’s a unique situation, for sure, but it’s not too dissimilar from the idea that someone never gets over their first love, or the notion that each relationship shapes a person to the extent that they take a piece of that experience with them. The difference is that Olivia and Altlivia are the same person, only separated by their life experiences and current location in the multiverse.
  • So I continue to have problems with Peter because, not only is he still hiding megatron secrets from the woman he claims to love, but he’s  lying to himself. Again, I do have a measure of sympathy for him, but he digs an impossible hole for himself when he claims that he’s seen their future and “it was beautiful”. Firstly, has Peter morphed into John frickin’ Locke? Has he just looked into the eye of the Island? :)
  • Secondly, that “future” he saw took place with a woman who is not ‘his’ Olivia. Same DNA, different life stories. Sure, both capable of the same things (and I’m sure we’ll explore that idea further), but Peter seems to want to have his cake and eat it. There’s no way you say that to the woman you love.
  • Olivia seems to let this comment slide and claims that Altlivia took their future away from them. Peter throws it back in her face, “and now? Who’s the one stopping us now?” Ouch! This man’s got his foot out. Thankfully the universe calls to get Olivia out of a sticky situation.

  • At the CSI building Broyles does what Broyles does best – exposition, as the team investigate the implausibility that the jumpers jumped. Broyles eyes the broken furniture and considers retrieving the pieces should his desk ever go missing again.
  • Jimmy, still wearing that lovely warm hat from earlier, gives his account of events before saying, “maybe it’s true what they say about this place..” as a spooky old lady peeks out the window of apartment 6B.
  • Interesting to note her expression. She seems to have some vague sense that the incident is her doing. Making her later decision a touch more believable.
  • Peter checks out the balcony, Walter tells him not to be a daredevil. I liked that, his concern for Peter. It must be hard for him, every time Boy Wonder crosses the road he must cross his fingers. His fear is heightened by the knowledge that the Observers are up to something.
  • Some nice investigating by the Bishop Boyz. They work well together as they put the pieces together. “It’s as if they went straight through the balcony”, says Walter. He then tries to test his theory having seen “Safe”. Peter, rather amusingly, tells him “not to push it, alright”.

Walter: “How do six people fall through a solid floor?”

Olivia: “Uh, Ghosts”

Peter: “Of course! Let’s call the Ghost Busters and go back to breakfast. I think the pancakes are still warm.”

  • The ghostly suggestion tips Walter’s BS Meter. He believes in a lot of things – harmonic frequencies, aliens, stealing children from parallel worlds – but ghosts!? Nah, it’s time to check for anomalies by flipping a coin.
  • Slightly random, since we’ve never seen Walter do such a thing before (and there has been many an occasion were his test would have come in handy). But flipping heads on 10 out of 10 occasions was a neat enough way for him to deduce that “the laws of physics are being disrupted here!” Again, contrived as a candle-lit breakfast, but I’ve seen much worse.

Walter: “Balcony! Here one second, gone the next”

Olivia: “What you talking about, Walter?”

Walter: “Like the other universe, our world is starting to come apart at the seams. And the tear is beginning right here”

  • I love these notions, the escalation of the story. But it makes my previous point about the team sitting around on these bee-hinds and investigating unessential cases, all the more relevant. Why didn’t Walter suspect something like this would happen? Why didn’t he work with Massive Dynamic to implement some contingency plans as soon as he returned from the alternate universe in 2.22 – or better yet, why didn’t he do more than hide things as soon as he returned from stealing Peter in 1985?
  • The team is reactionary to the point that it becomes difficult to buy them as a serious outfit. I mean, Walter was involved in “preparing children” to defend the universe, and yet he doesn’t think any further ahead? I’m not saying this can’t be explained or reasoned, but at the moment it’s a gaping vortex in the story’s logic.
  • Fair enough, it makes the story more fluid, but as I said, I think more could be done on that front.
  • And I love the fact that Walter basically echoes my sentiments when he asks the team “why are you all sitting around!?”. EXACTLY Walter! Though he can talk, it wasn’t so long ago that he was unwilling to help clean up his own mess over fears it would lead to Peter getting a scratch or two.

  • Walter explains that the anomaly is not a soft spot, but a hole that could potentially lead to a vortex – the kind of which we have already seen gobble up big chunks of the alternate universe. I’m pleased we’re getting more on nature’s quest for balance, that’s always been an inherently interesting aspect of the storytelling.
  • Walter asks Peter to earn his money by measuring the frequency at the building. Peter gets hypothetical and Walter asks him if he’d prefer to have Olivia strip down to her bra and panties for another heightened state adventure. Peter thinks: “why actually, yes. Yes, I would!”
  • It’s good to see Walter make progress. A season or two ago he’d have the B&P Tank™ (or some other contraption) out in a jiffy. Now he’s more sensitive to the consequences of his science. I’m sure there will come a time when Olivia has to ‘rip open her consciousness’ once more, but I’m glad there are now more emotional obstacles in Walter’s path.
  • Walter is clearly stressed and has a feeling that the others aren’t taking matters as seriously as he is. Why should they, they have matters of the heart on their minds. And these matters would soon surface in the physical world around them. Walter despairs and feels that Astrid is doubting him. He has issues with those who doubt him, as you may have gathered along the way.
  • Peter and Olivia might be the world’s only hope, but theres no-way they’re standing outside all night in the cold to monitor any vortex activity. They go for some warm fries, because warm fries make people happy.
  • Mrs Merchant skulks home for some private action with her dead husband, Derek. She thinks he’s a ghost, she’s been watching too much Ghost .

  • Olivia and Peter yuk it up at the bar. Olivia, clearly feeling more horny than she did earlier, tells Peter that she wants to know what beautiful feels like. Peter computes and the pair lock lips in a romantic moment that will live forever in my memory. THIS right here is what Fringe is all about. I’ve waited almost 3 seasons for this! Now, nothing shall get in the way of their one true love!
  • Wait..a..minute. Olivia pulls back, she’s seeing Boy Wonder glimmer and it’s not the drink. She figures that her ability to see objects from the other side (i.e. Peter) triggered because she still harbors fear. Peter doesn’t care if he’s glimmering, he thinks they could have some fun back at his place. But Olivia needs to get some air.
  • Aside from the endless desire to pit these two together, I thought it was neat that Olivia’s emotional GPS was flagged by her internal system. It’s a cool device, this glimmering lark. That being said, it’s a fine line, I think it became an excuse to make the story really sappy and convenient. Now he glimmers, now he doesn’t.
  • Peter tries to reassure Olivia, but she he tells him, “Petah, you glim-glimmered”.
  • She admits to being afraid, and comes to the rather sudden conclusion (no doubt based on Petah’s earlier words) that it’s not just about Altlivia, that she’s the one stopping them from getting together. (Whaaaaa?).
  • I realize that Olivia is relatively inexperienced when it comes to “feelings” of the Peterkind, but it’s kinda tragic to see the Dunhamnator define herself by Peter’s every assumption. I would have liked to have seen more evidence of the character actually processing this information. Sure, perhaps she’s always thought that about herself, but that’s not really how it played.

Olivia: “Maybe I’m just incapable of being vulnerable [..] I’m terrified that I can’t fix this, that this is just who I am”

  • I appreciate the message – that goes without saying – but it’s so thickly painted that the character is becoming less and less recognizable as the episodes tick by.
  • I’ve known about Olivia’s constant battle to define and prove herself for ages – a theme that was brilliantly executed even as recently as the first 8 episodes of the season, but that exploration has been watered down since.
  • It’s as though the writers are trying to tell us what the characters are thinking/feeling and what it means for the story, instead of really exploring those ideas as richly as we know they are capable. I’ve seen this kind of thing happen before (LOST being a good example) and I sense history repeating itself on Fringe.
  • That’s not to say that Fringe or LOST are not among the most excellent and rewarding shows. But, you know, some elements are less organic than others. Anyway, Olivia sees the window of apartment 6B glimmer. “There’s got to be some Boom-Boom going in there!”, she thinks.
  • Peter can’t see it because he doesn’t have the ability. This is important for explaining why Mrs Merchant is able to see Derek from the other side. No, she’s not a Cortexiphan Gran, but she has deep emotional attachments to her Derek who passed away.
  • The glowy cave of light from LOST makes its debut in Fringe. As Mrs. Merch catches a glimpse of her Derek. Except it’s not her Derek, but the one from the alternate universe.

  • Olivia and Peter race to the apartment – Peter has been waiting for such a scenario for a LONG time. He utters his trademark phrase, “By the power of Grayskull..” and kicks down the door. That’ll be $100 out of his pocket-money.
  • I found it slightly crazy that Peter would simply kick the door down when he couldn’t even see the shiny light. Had Olivia asked him to, it would have played a bit better. Anyway, Olivia sees the not-ghost of Derek and Petah asks “what happened?”. You just kicked in some poor old woman’s door, and now she has to go without Netflix for a week because of the high increase in door fixing charges. Consequences, Petah. Consequences.
  • Curiously, Walter is unable to detect radiation leakage from the other side, hinting that there must be something else amiss.
  • Walter is adamant that there are no ghostly goings-on, saying that he and Bellie used to argue constantly about what happens to the body’s energy after death:

“William theorized we should be able to capture that energy, using what he called soul magnets”.

  • fascinating stuff – it’s exactly the kind of thing we’ve been talking about recently. I’m glad to get a little more on the nature of the soul in Fringe. I suspect that Walter’s mention of Bellie and the soul may be some kind of foreshadowing to future events, but we’ll see.

Walter: “He said if he were right, he would contact me from the great beyond. I havent gotten the call yet”

  • Olivia has a chat with Mrs Merch about Derek, further informing her relationship with Peter. She tells Olivia that they never had children and that he died from a run in with the old fuse box – they flipped a coin and he lost, in more ways than one. All of this would come back into play a bit later.
  • Interesting that Walter’s coin flipping should tie into the Merchants own decision tossing.

Alice Merchant: “He was part of me, then he was gone”

 

  • Does a person – their soul, spirit, or whatever it is that defines them at the root level – ever really go? The episode asks an interesting question and layers it by throwing the alternate universe Derek into the mix. The question then becomes, how connected are the two Dereks, and indeed, the two of everything that comprise the story?
  • Certainly, I believe that every person is “unique” – and I think September would agree with me on that. However, I also believe that on some meta level the two of everything are also bound by a unifying reservoir. We have this on a thematic level with the doubles underlying the ‘road not taken’ – providing two variations of the same coin. But in an all-encompassing sense, I get the impression that something can be both unified yet also experience at discrete levels. As always, both the characters and the audience are seeing a certain perspective play out. What happens when the lens pulls back? Our understanding of the true nature of reality expands.
  • Walter is not quite sure why Mrs Merch can see through to the other universe while Peter can’t, but he’s more concerned with the idea of the universe falling apart.
  • Walter may not have been making contingencies, but he has been pondering from afar how:

“we would respond if a vortex opened up here, and how we would plug the breach”.

  • He decides that the amber from the bus attack in Ghost Network will help seal the hole. Rather smartly, he uses both the Pattern Attacks and the alternate universe (called Amber 31422 over there) as an example of how to solve the problems in his world. These cautionary tales, if you will, are finally stimulating Walter’s mind.
  • Though I suspect the challenge going forward will not so much be to copy the actions of Walternate, but to see if he can make better choices, for BOTH worlds.

  • Olivia doesn’t like the idea of using Amber over here. She’s seen what it’s done to the thousands over there. Broyles is worried about the public reaction, which is funny because rarely has he ever been worried about such things before. A bit convenient there, Broylesie.
  • All sides have a point, though they all seem to be reading from a different page, acting emotionally about the situation instead of taking the simple step across to see that each point being made is valid, on some level. Walter’s point is the most forceful and he wins the battle of hearts. Though I don’t see a huge problem with what he’s suggesting (i.e. evacuating the building first, sealing it with amber) he is definitely going down a dangerous path, and my concern would be that the Amber ‘solution’ sort of fell into his lap. Again, this is where more planning and proactivity would have helped.
  • Olivia continues to believe that it’s a bad last resort – she’s right. She explains the protocol that Walternate devised on the other side. Broyles sighs, and says: “I need to run this up with channels”. Peter snarks, “not exactly how you imagined meeting the President, huh?” Broyles tells him that he already knows Obama, and that Obama isn’t fond of him because he beat him at golf.
  • Hm. I’ve long wondered why the show usually fails to reference the President. Both universes, that is. I guess it’s to keep the story compact. Though, even if the truth about the two universes is only known to a few, it’s somewhat inconceivable that the President and government wouldn’t be more involved. Perhaps more name-dropping would help? Even as an ‘observer’, I naturally assumed that Broyles had at least met the President before. Not sure why Peter would think otherwise?
  • Nina gets Massive Dynamics top scientists on the Amber case. She gets Brandon working on it as well.

  • A scene between Walter and Nina, where he admits some truths:

Walter: “For a long time I was willing to think the worst of Walternate. That he was an evil man, willing to use any means necessary to get what he needed. I suppose it made it easy to justify what I did. Now we’re faced with the same decision, and I’m arguing that we do exactly what he did. What sort of person does that make me?”

Nina: “One who’s asking the right questions”

Walter: “You don’t think he grappled with them too?

  • Just as Walter asks this question, the amber compound solidifies – a nice metaphor. I find it strange that he would think so badly of Walternate, given that he stole the man’s child and crashed his universe. Not to mention that (unless we’re missing a chunk of the story) Walter has not interacted on any personal level with Walternate until very recently (“Over There”) to believe that he was ‘evil’. Though to be fair to Walter, he does admit that he this view was borne out of guilt.
  • I also appreciate Walter suggesting that Walternate has battled with the same demons he is now dancing with. It’s a nice way of further humanizing Walternate even though he’s off-screen. Important, because I sense that a lot of viewers have trouble relating to a character who is, for all intents and purposes, Walter.
  • Peter and Olivia come to the conclusion that this is not all about physics, but about people, suggesting that Mrs Merchant on the other side died in the same freak accident instead of Derek.

Olivia: “Is it possible that two people grieving for a version of each other in the exact same spot are somehow causing this soft spot?”

  • I’ve often spoken about the inherent connection between the two universes and the way in which thoughts and emotions influence cycles and events between both realities. This is a nice way of bringing these ideas to surface-level. Walter calls it “emotional quantum entanglement”, or “spooky action at a distance”.
  • Mrs Merch begins experiencing some more of that spooky action, and the team have to put their theory into..action. Olivia explains her notion to Broyles. “You think all of this is because of feelings?” Clearly he’s been taking lessons in blunt exposition from Sam Weiss. Peter explains that some of the body’s natural chemicals are like Cortexiphan – he’s right of course, until the “aliens” somehow diminished our abilities, right Walter?

  • Mrs. Merchant refuses to leave her building, and I’m thinking that they really should be dragging her out of there whether she wants to leave or not. Walter says that pulling her out wouldn’t make a difference, but they could at least try – perhaps doing so would break the connection. Perhaps sedating the woman would..break the connection? Seriously, if her emotions are the cause then putting her to sleep while they try to get a handle on the situation should have crossed their mind. But then, we wouldn’t have the drama-drama.
  • Contrivances aside, I am a fan of the notion of choice in “breaking the connection”. We often examine the cycles in Fringe and this is a great example. Getting caught in the loop is a lot harder than stepping out of it, which is why I was pleased to see Walter allow his son to go back into the building without trying to stop him. The sad acceptance of fate etched across his face was evidence he’s learning to let go – not because he wants to, but because he feels it’s the right thing to do. Again, breaking the cycle requires incredible strength, sometimes there’s strength in simply letting go.
  • Naturally, this cycle business also plays into Olivia and Peter. Should they hold onto their relationship, or let go? It’s not just about them, of course, it’s about other people as well, such as Altlivia and the two universes.
  • Underlying story elements aside, Olivia and Peter try to concinvce Mrs. Merch that it’s not her husband that she’s holding onto. I thought that would be a tall order under such extreme and chaotic conditions.
  • It was a nice scene – Olivia at the front of the situation, Peter standing 5 paces behind where he belongs. Kinda like “Ability”, which this episode makes no effort to reflect. Jacksonville? Nah, no symmetry going on here. :)

  • Olivia tells Merchant that although he looks exactly like Derek, he isn’t her husband. More context for Olivia’s own struggle with identity and the things that were ‘taken away from her’ by Altlivia. This internal catharsis, if you will, would later help bring Olivia closer to Peter. I guess you could say it ‘opened the doors’, as Olivia came to the decision that no matter how similar a person is, no two people are exactly the same, etc, etc.
  • It’s easy to see why Olivia needed this given all that has happened to her. Once again her internal needs are being manifested with answers. Hocus-pocus? Coincidence? Or hints at a larger ‘truth’? I’ve always backed the latter.
  • Meanwhile upstairs, Peter tells Merchant that she’s “already had what most of us dream of, a lifetime with the person you love”. Rather poignant, though it was also a good opportunity to send another ‘forgive me’ message to Dunham in case they made it out alive.
  • That being said, I do kinda feel sorry for Peter. He doesn’t have many happy memories, be it with Olivia, Altlivia, or life in general. Walter gave him the Jedi Mind Block when he was a kid and since then he’s lost touch with both parents – or rather, all four parents, in one way or another

  • Still, Peter’s words are mostly for the audience and Olivia. It’s Alt-Derek’s mention of their children, that Mrs. Merch and her Derek never had, that quelled the fire in her heart and thus broke the connection. AU Derek disappears in a puff. Downstairs, everyone is relieved – especially Walter who was already planning to steal Peter and Olivia’s bodies from the amber.
  • I have to admit to getting rather swept up in the drama taking place outside. Walter’s decision to amberize the building with his dear Petah still inside, and Broyles’ reluctance to pull the Pin of Doom (POD) with his dear agent inside. That was pretty emotional. I’m proud of Walter for breaking the cycle, and Broyles for holding firm and taking those extra seconds before pulling the POD. Great stuff.
  • Later, Mrs Merch is rather calm considering she’s just discovered that there’s an alternate universe. Her bonnet is a bit of a mess, but other than that she’s rather relaxed. I am surprised that she feels completely cold towards AU Derek, especially so quickly after weeks of believing. But I put that down to the story wanting to give us a very specific message. Fair enough, though it may have been nice to see a touch more rounding.
  • It’s a nice message though, the idea that Merch will one day see ‘her’ Derek again. Interesting that she used the word “see”. If and when it happens, I think ‘see’ would have a different meaning.

  • A touching scene between Walter and Nina. Walter is far from happy, despite everything working out just fine. And rightly so:

Walter: “Today wasn’t a victory. Today was a vision of things to come.

Nina: “Oh, Walter. You don’t know that to be true”

Walter: “Unfortunately  I do. If the vortex had opened, I wouldn’t have been able to seal it. And then there would be new cracks, and we would seal those cracks. And those cracks in our universe would beget larger cracks. Over there, decades of research and funding. Best solution Walternate could come up with was this, and it wont be enough. Once the universes start to unravel there will be no stopping it. I don’t know how to stop it.

Nina: “Well then, I think you need to learn”

  • Beautiful, absorbing, meaningful. I love that Walter is sitting in Massive Dynamic – his kingdom, with Nina by his side and a chunk of the not-enough kryptonite amber on his desk.
  • Walter is describing the breaches in the universe, but he could just as well be talking about the human heart. In fact, to me he is. That’s when the show really ticks, when physics become the human condition through meaningful descriptions and events.

  • I found it interesting that Walter doesn’t believe the amber will be enough. He’s aware that it’s just a stopgap measure, like putting a bandage on a broken arm instead of setting the bone and allowing it to heal. And that’s what I appreciate – the idea that every action so far is just a temporary measure.
  • Nina’s response to Walter’s despair caught me off-guard somewhat. I didn’t expect that response from her, not initially. I thought she’d be all cuddly and ease Walter to her bosom like a young animal. Instead, she’s rather firm, but reassuringly so, and it makes perfect sense.
  • For a long time we’ve known that Walter doesn’t like people doubting him – Nina remembers this all to well, she lost an arm trying to prevent him from crossing over to the other side. So here she’s placing faith in Walter’s ability to figure out a solution.  She’s calling him to action, stimulating him to rise to the challenges ahead.
  • Much like the previous episode with Reiko reassuring Walternate that he always finds an answer, Nina is playing a similar role here. Walter takes heart from Nina’s faith – she has given him the energy he needed, and suddenly there is HOPE that maybe, possibly, perhaps he can find a better, less temporary solution. One that can save both worlds.

  • While Nina’s motives are interesting (conversations with Sam, etc), this is a fantastic scene of real meaning. What was to follow, well, that dance is getting tired..
  • Olivia goes round to Peter’s with a bottle of something strong. “Oh, Walter’s not home? I never knew!” She tells him that she wants what he wants. No, not Shapeshifter Death. To his credit, Boy Wonder comes up with a pretty cool line that I didn’t think he had in him: “What d’you think we should do about that?”
  • Olivia’s mind imagines as her knees become weak…“I want to go BROOM on your BOOM-BOOM”, she thinks.
  • The pair kiss. The boy doesn’t glimmer. As if by magic, she’s no longer scared! “Thanks Alice, you really helped me resolve my issues, I’m so going to pay for that door,” thinks Olivia.

  • She leads Boy Wonder upstairs to try to make a man of him yet.
  • And while another baby is possibly being conceived, over to the other universe we go for a nice look-in on Altlivia and Lincoln who are checking in on the anomaly. Just like over here, all readings are within normal parameters. You’d think Altlivia might put 2+2 together, but this scene was mostly to give folks another chance to connect the dots. Plus, who doesn’t want to see Altlivia?
  • Poor dear, whatever will she do once she realizes Peter and Olivia are an item? We have so much to look forward to. No really, hope we do. There’s always hope, right?
FINAL THOUGHTS

An improvement from “Immortality”, but still too fascinated by the Olivia/Peter love story. What I appreciated about this episode, I really appreciated – the thematic rise, the humanizing of nature, the individual choices with meta-level consequences, the cyclical nature of reality, the progress of Walter and that marvellous scene with Nina.

Best Performer: John Noble

Best Line: “Well then, I think you need to learn”Nina to Walter.

Best Moment: The Walter/Nina scene in nighttime Massive Dynamic.

Episode Rating: 7/10

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  1. Inter-dimensional Dave says

    “THIS right here is what Fringe is all about. I’ve waited almost 3 seasons for this! Now, nothing shall get in the way of their one true love!”

    Ha, good one Roco! I remember how horrified I was, when it was either Damon Lindelof or Carton Cuse, as the last season of Lost was wrapping up explained that Lost has always been about love.

    It has??!! Oh no! I always thought it was about the Island, the Dharma Initiative, the Others etc. I was shocked when they oversimplified the entire series and distilled it down to everyone’s relationships. I knew then that the finale was going to be a disappointment.

    Is Fringe taking the same path? I hope not. (And there’s always hope!)

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    • says

      Spot on, Dave. I think it was a case of them trying to bend the final chapter to their will and brush the elements on which the story was build under the carpet. Credit to them for being bold enough to make a mythology driven character show in the first place, but if anything LOST was only a character driven show in the first season.

      I still take value from the finale, and the show is top of my pops, but it could have really satisfied on an even deeper, all encompassing, level. Oh well. Long live Locke. :)

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      • Inter-dimensional Dave says

        I always wonder if I’m going to offend somebody if I bash the Lost finale. Sorry if I do. I know how much it meant to people. I can add there was no greater fan of Lost than I and when finale came about I felt jilted. Oh, see that, I’m a spurned lover. I guess “Darlton” was right all along. Relationships!

        Yes, credit does go to them for making it a mythology based show. I think the network had a hand in spoiling the finale for me. Remember how the finale was extended time wise? Ugh, just to fit in more commercials EVERY TEN MINUTES! I’m sure that wasn’t Darltons doing. (But it still makes my teeth grind.)

        Long live Locke and somebody better be feeding Vincent!

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        • Pierce says

          You won’t…can’t offend me about the finale of Lost. In fact, I’d include the last three seasons of the show. It was terrible looking back on it now, and the finale was complete give-up in my opinion. I always felt the characters came before whatever the mythology of the show was about, but it became pretty obvious around mid season three they had lost track of both. More characters then they knew what to do with. Storylines that went nowhere, and a buttload of unanswered questions that they made next to no attempt to answer. For all the potential the first season held, and make no mistake about it, S1 was about as close to perfect in terms of television narrative as one can get with the exception West Wing or BSG (which actually got better in its second season, but I digress) it was squandered, painfully so as the show began to wrap.

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          • says

            I’ve been spurned by LOST too ! Confessions of a Lostaholic. But you have got to give credit to Lindelof and Cuse for keeping the viewer watching LOST until the bitter end. I have the same reaction to watching Fringe, the same beautiful obsession. It also has a lot to do with Roco being the master of this domain.; ) Great observations again.

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    • Peanut says

      Here’s hoping along with you, Inter-dimensional Dave, regarding the future of “Fringe.” I was disappointed in the ending to “Lost” also.

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  2. Pierce says

    “Beautiful, absorbing, meaningful. I love that Walter is sitting in Massive Dynamic – his kingdom, with Nina by his side and a chunk of the not-enough kryptonite amber on his desk.”

    I honestly felt like that was the best scene of the entire episode. I loved what it conveyed about Walter and Nina, and the terror Walter is all too aware is headed their way, and it’s all because of the decision he made so many years ago.

    I also felt that when he was speaking about the use of amber to seal the cracks, he was speaking of the condition of the heart. Without hope, another way which has become a theme throughout this season, anything they do now is only temporary. However, I saw what came across as a foregleam towards the end of the episode when when visited the Fringe team on the other side investigating the same anomoly. Peter and Olivia convincing Mrs. Merchant to sever her emotional connection to the Derek on the other side appeared to correct or heal the near incident in the alt/verse. I could be reading too much in to it, but the impression I got was that they managed to heal that universe (in that spot) from an emotional perspective.

    “I realize that Olivia is relatively inexperienced when it comes to “feelings” of the Peterkind, but it’s kinda tragic to see the Dunhamnator define herself by Peter’s every assumption. I would have liked to have seen more evidence of the character actually processing this information. Sure, perhaps she’s always thought that about herself, but that’s not really how it played.”

    I’m not sure I follow your logic here. Throughout the series we’ve seen Olivia struggling with her difficulties in making emotional connections with people, and it’s recently been amplified in her relationship with Peter. I don’t see her defining herself by Peter’s every assumption but as the barriers she’s long placed around her emotions/heart that Peter is now challenging. I thought him plainly asking Olivia what was preventing her now from moving foward was exactly the kick in the butt Olivia needed. Just as her retort on his not being entirely honest regarding his feelings towards the other Olivia was the smack upside the head he deserved and what she needed to say. There is no easy fix here because they are dealing with the most unusual of circumtances. However, if they just kept circling one another, Olivia passive/agressively approaching the subject with Peter hedging around the truth to avoid hurting Olivia even more things were never going to progress. I, for one, am delighted we’ve finally gotten some traction on that front before we return to the past to see where it all began.

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    • Dessy says

      “There is no easy fix here because they are dealing with the most unusual of circumtances. However, if they just kept circling one another, Olivia passive/agressively approaching the subject with Peter hedging around the truth to avoid hurting Olivia even more things were never going to progress. I, for one, am delighted we’ve finally gotten some traction on that front before we return to the past to see where it all began.”

      I totally agree Pierce. I mean it’s a great review, like always, totally hilarious, but i don’t really agree on the whole Peter/Olivia front. It’s fascinating how much Roco so clearly hates these two together. I think it’s better that we just got it over with. In the review, he talks about “breaking the cycle”. Peter and Olivia have been having the same ‘you still have feelings for her’, ‘no I don’t’, ‘yeah you do’, ‘Olivia…’, ‘it’s Okay,’ conversation for about five episodes now. The two of them moving forward past that, isn’t that a form of “breaking the cycle”?

      I think they handled the emotional stuff well, and i actually loved this episode. It could have been much worse. They could have made it real dramatic, with them declaring their love everywhere for each other. And if you think the peter/Olivia stuff is getting too monotonous (which I don’t), don’t worry, Fauxlivia is soon going to be back to cause a lot of chaos Over Here.

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      • says

        @Dessy:

        “It’s fascinating how much Roco so clearly hates these two together. I think it’s better that we just got it over with. In the review, he talks about “breaking the cycle”. Peter and Olivia have been having the same ‘you still have feelings for her’, ‘no I don’t’, ‘yeah you do’, ‘Olivia…’, ‘it’s Okay,’ conversation for about five episodes now. The two of them moving forward past that, isn’t that a form of “breaking the cycle”?”

        I don’t “hate” them together – in the long-term I’d like for both of them to be happy, but it has to be earned in a storytelling sense. I just think the story is currently diminished for having made it the focus. I haven’t enjoyed the Olivia/Peter back-and-forth either, the whole thing was tired last month. But there’s more than one way to peel an orange, and I believe that storyline should have been kept sedated. Why make it the focus? That would be my question.

        I appreciate the underlying themes and messages – “breaking the cycle” is something I’ve spoken about extensively long before season 3, so I definitely find value in that, as I hope I’ve outlined in my reviews. However, that doesn’t mean the chosen approach isn’t contrived or out of whack.

        But as I always say, everyone sees things differently. I have no problem with alternative perspectives. I can sort of see where you’re coming from with your views, I guess I’m coming from a slightly different direction.

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    • says

      @Pierce:

      “Peter and Olivia convincing Mrs. Merchant to sever her emotional connection to the Derek on the other side appeared to correct or heal the near incident in the alt/verse. I could be reading too much in to it, but the impression I got was that they managed to heal that universe (in that spot) from an emotional perspective.”

      That’s an interesting perspective. I suspect an anomaly could still open up at that spot, but I like it.

      “I thought him plainly asking Olivia what was preventing her now from moving foward was exactly the kick in the butt Olivia needed.”

      I think that’s what the writers want us to think, but for me, it just doesn’t play right.

      Like you, I’m aware of Olivia’s emotional difficulties and the boundaries she erects. However, for her to suddenly do something about those issues just because Peter mentions it a few hours earlier? That’s a bit contrived, in my view. Peter is right on some levels, but he’s also wrong on others. For me, any resolution needed to play out longer and Peter needed to do more work.

      But of course, they needed to get them into bed, to bring them back together just so we can have another fallout when they discover that Altlivia is pregnant. And then there’s the fact that he still has feelings for Altlivia – and Olivia is fine with that? I appreciate the underlying messages, but it doesn’t seem in-sync with the character. It’s all for the plot, which is fine because plot drives things forward. I’d just like to see a bit more attention to character detail.

      That being said, we all have different perspectives, and that’s what it’s all about.

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      • real1 says

        You are so right here Roco :

        “”However, for her to suddenly do something about those issues just because Peter mentions it a few hours earlier? That’s a bit contrived, in my view. Peter is right on some levels, but he’s also wrong on others. For me, any resolution needed to play out longer and Peter needed to do more work.

        But of course, they needed to get them into bed, to bring them back together just so we can have another fallout when they discover that Altlivia is pregnant. And then there’s the fact that he still has feelings for Altlivia – and Olivia is fine with that? I appreciate the underlying messages, but it doesn’t seem in-sync with the character. It’s all for the plot, which is fine because plot drives things forward. I’d just like to see a bit more attention to character detail. “””

        Peter did reply about ” he still think about her ” but he didn’t reply about if he still has feelings for her …. What a con man !! really …. I think Peter did manipulate Olivia’s feelings and to add for that .. in 2 WEEKS he didn’t try to call her and was accepting that nothing gonna happen between him and her as how he said to Walter ! … come one men !!! if any man was loving his woman will do what ever he can to win her heart to let her see that he is loving her .. what Peter did do to prove that ????? nothing !!! .. the book was a mistake ! then .. the killing and fooling Olivia about how may Fauxlivia is thinking about him while he knows what she wrote about him .. then the wrong coffee and thank you Simon he said that Peter still has feelings for Fauxlivia …….. and AGAIN 2 WEEKS he didn’t try any thing …. I just would like to believe him !! but I can’t ! .. poor Olivia ! .. well maybe its how the writers would like to write Peter in s3 …. but still it’s too much !

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        • says

          Great points real1!

          Peter hasn’t exactly done enough to reciprocate the feelings Olivia is offering him. After all, she only went to an alternate universe to try and get him back.

          And you’re right, he’s essentially side-stepped questions about his own feelings for Altlivia, and placed the guilt on Olivia.

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    • says

      I’ll agree to being happy that Peter said something that pushed it one way or another out of the passive/aggressive limbo they were in, and giving the story a push forward. Hurray for that. The funny thing is I always thought Olivia was very good at connecting with people, in the short term, and particularly with children (Ella, Christopher, the mini-Observer from under the ground, the child taken by the Candyman). She seems to know just what to say and do to connect with them and the adults they have in their cases. These are short-term connections and perhaps they don’t really matter to her in the long run, maybe they don’t affect her emotions much? Curious.

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  3. FringeFriday says

    Aaah, Roco is on the same side when it comes to the P/O relationship speed up ;)

    About the “Machine-tuned, shapeshifter-killing, Peter”… well I think he only reacts to the machine when he is close to it. They built the machine together and tested it BEFORE Peter entered the building and nothing triggered him before… so I guess, as long as he is away from the machine, everyone’s save!

    And yeah- how did Chris fall? He obviously runs after the guy calling for him, you can see the other guys from the balcony FALL and Chris still runs inside the flat. He kinda runs to the right side, but there is a red-head standing in the corner, so she should have fallen, too, but it would be the balcony next to the one actually vanishing…. big Error? or what….?

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    • says

      “well I think he only reacts to the machine when he is close to it. They built the machine together and tested it BEFORE Peter entered the building and nothing triggered him before… so I guess, as long as he is away from the machine, everyone’s save!”

      Nice suggestion, I’d be happy to buy that. I guess the Boom-Boom-Effect faded. For now… :)

      Still, I’d like to see more of the ramifications of what happened to him. More of his internal monologue on spilling all that mercury. I’m sure we’ll come back to it, but until then it feels like a case file that has been put away before we’ve hit page 2.

      “And yeah- how did Chris fall?”

      Guess we have to put it down as another X-File, otherwise known as ‘Charlie Furnace of Death Moment’.

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  4. mlj102 says

    Was the purpose of posting your review over here part of some “cross-site” promotion, or were you just making sure we were paying attention? Either way, I welcome your reviews no matter where you post them (as long as I can find them!)

    However, that said, I got the distinct impression you were rather bitter about certain aspects of this episode. Your sarcasm and humor were particularly dry when reviewing anything connected to Peter/Olivia. I know you’re no fan of the relationship, but is it really that bad? I mean, you were quite negative about the entire breakfast scene, but I was very pleased with that whole scene. Walter was back to the fun, loveable Walter from the earlier seasons. The exchange between Peter and Olivia was necessary, mature, and they were both able to say things that needed to be said and allowed the story to move forward. I still think that Peter should be a bit more easygoing towards Olivia and that she is well within her rights to be guarded about any sort of relationship with him, but he did make some good points. It wasn’t nearly as bad as I would think it had been if I had read your review without seeing the scene.

    “One of my hopes at the start of the season was for the Olivia/Peter romance not to dominate proceedings.”

    I think this is the one aspect of the relationship where we agree. I never wanted the relationship to become a main focus of the show, but in the last several episodes, that’s exactly what has happened. And I’ll admit that bothers me. But that being said, I think they’re doing a very good job with what they’re doing with the relationship. We’re seeing them both develop and explore this relationship under unusual circumstances. And it has lead to some very emotional, powerful moments. And I think that development is important to them as characters as well as just the relationship. The writing and the acting are fantastic and I think it’s coming across better than I had expected it would if ever made the main focus. Plus, developing the relationship saves them from making the mistake of carrying on the whole “will they – won’t they” thing for far too long where it just weighs the story down. Fringe has shown many times that they aren’t going to drag things out unnecessarily long for the sole purpose of adding suspense/tension/mystery to things, and this is no different. They’re moving the story forward and answering questions, and by doing that, it opens up new possibilities. Besides, you have said that they needed to earn their relationship… how exactly are they supposed to do that if they never talk about it?

    “I don’t see what Peter has done between Marionette and this episode to change Olivia’s mind?”

    Honestly, I think that’s kind of the point. While I’ve argued since this whole thing started that Peter should be the one who had to earn back Olivia’s trust and affection, I think that the way things have developed is meant to show just how much Olivia loves him. Yes, in Marionette she claimed that she didn’t want to be with him. But no matter how much she tries to move on, ignore her feelings, and let him go, she can’t bring herself to do it because of how much she loves him. And the fact that that love is strong enough to cause her to be willing to still want to pursue a relationship despite what happened really says something about the extent of her feelings. I mean, the whole reason this situation is so difficult and painful for her is because she cared so much about it in the first place. The reason she reacted the way she did in Marionette is because she loved him and felt like that chance at a relationship was taken away from her. So to me, it makes sense that, even though Peter hasn’t necessarily done anything to prove himself to her, she’s still holding on to the hopes of that relationship, even though she wanted to be done with it at the same time.

    “But as I’ve said throughout the season, it’s impossible to untangle his love for Olivia and Altlivia.”

    And as I’ve said throughout the season, I disagree with this. I just can’t understand how Peter could have feelings for alternate Olivia when he doesn’t even really know her. The way I see it, both relationships show his love for Olivia as he thought he was with Olivia the whole time. Olivia is the one he loved from the beginning. She’s the one he loved when he was in a relationship with alternate Olivia. And she’s the one he loves now. Yes, if he thinks he has any feelings for alternate Olivia, he should reexamine those feelings and where exactly they come from, but the feelings for Olivia are genuine. I just don’t think you can claim they are less real or they are biased because of the mess with alternate Olivia.

    Moving on…

    “Aside from the Walter/Nina scene, I thought the story’s resolution was a bit convenient.”

    Agreed. It bothered me that they were able to get Alice to let go, and suddenly everything was fine. With all that was going on with the imminent vortex developing, I find it hard to believe that all just disappeared. There should have been some lingering damage or repercussions. I’m all for the concept of love healing things, but the resolution here wasn’t love, it was just letting go of the grief that was opening up the hole. So there was no reason for everything to not only stop, but be healed and back to normal, too.

    Similarly, I felt like the climax of this episode lacked any amount of urgency or tension. Jacksonville had me far more captivated and concerned with the outcome than this one did. I’m not saying it wasn’t a good story or anything, but it didn’t hold me in the same way other stories at their high point have done.

    “Not sure how Chris fell through the balcony?”

    I didn’t think he was one of the victims who fell… As you pointed out, he clearly left the balcony prior to the accident. Actually, I thought that was rather intentional, to show how he’d barely escaped death there. I didn’t get a good look at any of the victims, but I didn’t think any of them resembled Chris.

    “Walter says there haven’t been any new cases for the past couple of weeks. I call BS on that.”

    The minute I heard that line I knew you were going to have issues with it. Thanks for not letting me down! While I’m not nearly as passionate about that particular issue as you are, I do agree that it seems odd and a bit hard to believe that they’re not being more proactive in doing something about this war and protecting their side, etc. Olivia spent a couple of months over there… I would think they would be putting her knowledge to good use and working towards something they can do to try and prevent the disaster before it’s right on top of them. But maybe they are. Walter being Walter, he could very well be overexaggerating a bit.

    Speaking of Walter, I should mention that this is the best he’s been in a long time. Lately I’ve found Walter to be rather obnoxious (far more obnoxious than the Peter/Olivia story), always wallowing in his own sorrow and being overly protective of Peter. It was nice to see a bit more of the old Walter in this episode, from his playing matchmaker, to his humor/craziness at the scene, to his concern for what’s happening and how to respond. It’s almost like he has the benefit of learning from his own mistakes before he actually makes them because he is aware of what happened from Walternate doing certain things. I found the way they approached Walter and his current predicament was far better in this episode than it has been in past episodes where they’ve tried something similar.

    “Broyles eyes the broken furniture and considers retrieving the pieces should his desk ever go missing again.”

    Best part of your review!

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      “I know you’re no fan of the relationship, but is it really that bad? I mean, you were quite negative about the entire breakfast scene, but I was very pleased with that whole scene. Walter was back to the fun, loveable Walter from the earlier seasons. The exchange between Peter and Olivia was necessary, mature, and they were both able to say things that needed to be said and allowed the story to move forward.”

      The breakfast scene certainly wasn’t the worst part of the episode, and I agree that it provided a gateway. I don’t think I was particularly hard on the scene itself. That said, I’m finding the whole back and forth rather tiresome. It’s difficult to be invested in something that feels so forced. I understand that a lot of people love this stuff, but I don’t find it as riviting.

      “I disagree with this. I just can’t understand how Peter could have feelings for alternate Olivia when he doesn’t even really know her. The way I see it, both relationships show his love for Olivia as he thought he was with Olivia the whole time.”

      This is something the writers have got right, in my view. Peter has feelings for her because she’s just similar enough to Olivia, but also just different enough. Sure, he may have been ‘in love’ with Olivia, but he didn’t fall out of love with Altlivia when he thought she was Olivia. That says something. And the fact that the relationship went further, says even more.

      Then there’s the very real idea that he had an underlying sense that something was off, yet chose to ignore it. Why? Because he thought he was making her better, certainly, but also because he was enjoying this ‘new side’ to Olivia. He was feeling her, forging an attachment. He was the happiest he’d been for a long time, and ‘Olivia’ was the happiest he’d ever seen her. To suddenly negate that because he found out that she wasn’t the Olivia he thought she was, well, I think that’s impossible. Feelings are not always conscious strings that can be cut.

      At the very least, would you agree that this is what the writers are saying with this storyline (particularly episode 3.12, where it was confirmed), even if you don’t like the idea itself?

      “We’re seeing them both develop and explore this relationship under unusual circumstances. And it has lead to some very emotional, powerful moments. And I think that development is important to them as characters as well as just the relationship.”

      I would disagree, I think the quality of the storytelling and acting has subsided. I think this storyline is largely the reason. I don’t see the “power” you’re seeing. I’m seeing less power. The character development (if that’s what it is) could come through alternative means – after all, this is one way of telling the story.

      “Plus, developing the relationship saves them from making the mistake of carrying on the whole “will they – won’t they” thing for far too long where it just weighs the story down.”

      Interesting. I’d say that’s exactly what is happening. Instead of ‘will they, wont they, it’s an entire dance!

      But again, some people love this stuff, and that’s cool. Storytelling is difficult, and I’m happy to see where it all goes, but for me the focus has changed too much. I think, when people look back at the season, this will be more evident. Of course, things could change to make it better.

      “Besides, you have said that they needed to earn their relationship… how exactly are they supposed to do that if they never talk about it?”

      I don’t believe “earning it” comes simply from making stuff happen to crank up the tension. :) That goes against the idea of “earning it”. My take on the characters getting to that place involves an ‘organic process’, one that actually takes a lot more than 16 episodes (half of which Olivia and Peter weren’t even in the same universe). For me, it hasn’t been earned because the story is operating on sensationalism, rather than developing the characters in realistic ways. Again, this depends on our point of view, but pitting Peter and Altlivia together, while interesting, has come at a price.

      Remember, I wasn’t a believer in the relationship in the first place, so my view may differ from those who specifically ship for this kind of thing, or those who are just more interested in the leads getting together romantically. It’s all about perspective.

      “I think that the way things have developed is meant to show just how much Olivia loves him [..]”

      Sure, it’s meant to ‘show’ that now, but my point is that I don’t buy the notion that she’s the one to blame for it not happening sooner (which is essentially what they’re saying). I don’t believe the trajectory of the idea from a character standpoint. It’s too convenient to suddenly say that Olivia is the obstacle, when actually, she had good reason to not leap into his arms after the Altlivia debacle. Half the time Peter has looked disinterested in making an effort to patch things up, so a more mutual coming together would have played better.

      Put it this way, when I look at serialized storytelling, I’m looking at more than just the current episode. I’m looking at entire arcs. If I was basing my view on the messages stemming from this one episode, then I’d probably agree with you. But again, we’re coming this from different angles so we’re bound to see it differently.

      “Similarly, I felt like the climax of this episode lacked any amount of urgency or tension.”

      Agreed. While I appreciate the little look in on AU Derek, it was an odd note to end.

      “I didn’t think he was one of the victims who fell…”

      I think he was one of the last people to fall – I remember the camera ensuring that we got a close-up of his face. I would have also expected the Fringe Team to speak to him had he escaped alive. I’ll see if I can dig up the screencap later, but I’m pretty sure he plummeted to his cement-flavored death.

      Well, I think we’re back to seeing things very differently, mlj! :)

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      • mlj102 says

        Okay, here goes…

        “Sure, he may have been ‘in love’ with Olivia, but he didn’t fall out of love with Altlivia when he thought she was Olivia. That says something.”

        I don’t think it says as much as you think it does. Like you said, he didn’t fall out of love with Altlivia because he thought she was Olivia. Why would he fall out of love when he was under the impression that he was finally in a relationship with the woman he loves? The whole time he thought she was Olivia. He was in love with Olivia the whole time. So how does that translate into he came to love Altlivia more? In my opinion, he didn’t fall out of love with Altlivia precisely because he thought she was Olivia and, though he had his doubts, he ignored them and continued to believe she was Olivia.

        And despite the fact that she was doing a poor job of it, she was pretending to be Olivia. She wasn’t herself, so how can you say he was able to fall in love with her? He doesn’t know who she is. Yes, she has different traits, such as the famous “quicker with a smile” thing, but as far as I’m concerned, that’s neutral territory. Maybe she was quicker with a smile because she was distracting him, so that’s not really her, either. And Olivia can smile, too. He remained in love with her because all along he was convinced she was still Olivia. The differences were there, but they were subtle, and you can’t say that he fell in love with alternate Olivia because she was no more herself than she was Olivia.

        “And the fact that the relationship went further, says even more.”

        And I completely disagree with this particular idea. The relationship with Olivia was already going in that direction after “Over There.” It was going to go further. If Olivia had made it home like she was supposed to, their relationship was going to progress like that. The only complication with that is that it was at that very moment the switch happened, so when the relationship went further, it was with the wrong Olivia. But that doesn’t mean it says something more about his supposed feelings for alternate Olivia.

        “At the very least, would you agree that this is what the writers are saying with this storyline (particularly episode 3.12, where it was confirmed), even if you don’t like the idea itself?”

        Honestly, I can’t figure out what the writers are trying to convey when it comes to the question of Peter having feelings for alternate Olivia. Olivia has called him on that one many times (that’s essentially what all this drama has been about) and every time, he denies it. If he truly cares for Olivia, which I believe he does, then I think he would admit it if he still felt anything for alternate Olivia. And maybe he’s just in denial, but even so, I think he would feel he had to admit it to himself and to her before allowing their relationship to progress in the way it did. If he still felt anything for alternate Olivia, how could he be actively pursuing a relationship with someone else? The only sure indication we’ve had that he does have feelings for her was Simon’s note, and at this point, I’m willing to consider that as a contrivance meant as nothing more than a development to bring added tension and drama to the story. So I guess my answer is no, I can’t agree that the writers are trying to say that Peter genuinely has/had feelings for alternate Olivia, because that hasn’t been established in any way beyond Simon’s note, which is a questionable interpretation of whatever thoughts Simon heard. It’s possible, but at this point I don’t think they’ve done enough to support that idea.

        “My take on the characters getting to that place involves an ‘organic process’, one that actually takes a lot more than 16 episodes”

        But this was going on since episode 1. It hasn’t been only 16 episodes. 16 episodes is only the time that it has been in the spotlight. That’s the time they’ve been directly focusing on developing it. And that’s also the time you most dislike it. But they’ve been building up to this since the beginning. They’ve been working towards earning it since the beginning. So it’s like a no-win with you because you didn’t like it in the beginning because it was not natural and hadn’t been earned, and now you don’t like it because they are focusing more on developing and earning it, but it’s too much of a focus, so it’s still forced and contrived. You say it needs more time, but from the beginning you were never open to the idea. Yet somehow you loved Reiko and Walternate as a couple after one dreadful scene. I just don’t get it.

        “Half the time Peter has looked disinterested in making an effort to patch things up,”

        I wouldn’t say he has been disinterested… I think he’s been quite preoccupied with the whole thing. He’s been cautious, unsure how to approach it, and wanting to give Olivia her space.

        “Well, I think we’re back to seeing things very differently, mlj!”

        It’s a bit comforting, isn’t it? As is usually the case when we disagree, the strange part is that I really don’t think we disagree too much at the core. We have similar interpretations and reactions, but we come to opposite conclusions. Like you, I don’t particularly like the triangle story, and I don’t like that it has become such a focus. I agree that I would have preferred it if Peter had been more active in proving himself to Olivia in order to earn her trust back over a longer period of time, rather than it becoming Olivia’s responsibility. But while you seem to think Peter and Altlivia is more natural and that Peter is in love with her while you dislike the contrived story of Peter and Olivia as a couple, I don’t see anything between Peter and Altlivia and I’m quite fond of the idea of Peter and Olivia together. And I just don’t think it’s as horrible as you seem to make it out to be in your comments. But I still appreciate you taking the time to share your opinions.

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        • Alex says

          Bravo, mlj102. ITA with you about Peter’s love for Olivia and his non feelings for Altlivia. I mean, why would Peter be in love in with the wrong Olivia, when all along, he thinks he was with OurLivia? The whole time he thought she was Olivia. He was in love with Olivia the whole time.

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  5. fedorafadares says

    “I just can’t understand how Peter could have feelings for alternate Olivia when he doesn’t even really know her. The way I see it, both relationships show his love for Olivia as he thought he was with Olivia the whole time. Olivia is the one he loved from the beginning.”

    Much agreed, mlj102. Peter’s never said he had feelings for Fauxlivia. I think he understands he was duped and part of the shame in that deception was that he had warm feelings while under the spell of the con. I think Peter summed it up quite well, quite succinctly when he told Olivia: I wanted to go down that road with YOU and I was happy when I thought I had; and YOU are standing in the way of us actually going there.

    I, for one, had no problem with the opening relationship scene nor did I have a problem with the final scene, which was very subtle and poignant. I could’ve lived without the bar scene, though I realize it was a set-up for Olivia to see the building glimmer. Contrived.

    I don’t think the relationship plot has dominated recent episodes, but I do think it is a point of fascination for some fans who’ve picked up on the attraction between these two characters from the start. But really, there are only a handful of ways a romantic plot can lead: together, apart and angry/longing, apart. Romance can be a limited road and it is somewhat frustrating when compared to the more varied terrain of the moral, ethical, mystical and physical science aspects of the show.

    I’m happy to see some lovin’ on Fringe, but really, I’m hoping to see how that love relationship informs the larger story. It must be more significant than feeeelings (how I love Broyles!) and I’m hopeful the fits and romantic starts are worth it beyond seeing two beautiful people being beautiful together.

    Fringe is at its best when its relationships mesh with the mythology. It’s what makes good sci-fi so compelling.

    I was reasonably pleased with Apt. 6B because I’m hoping it heralds a great last part of the season. The first giant leap into an exciting stretch of shows.

    Thanks for the great review, Roco. No matter where it is, it’s a pleasure!

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  6. says

    You nailed it. Touched on every point on my mind at least.

    Even when they took the other Olivia away in handcuffs, you can see a reaction in Peter that tells me there is something still there. Perhaps that he might actually believe what she just told him. Why put in there if that was not entirely true?

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    • says

      @Xindilini:

      Spot on! You don’t write something like that (and follow it up with Simon’s letter in 3.12) unless it’s to signal Peter’s lingering feelings.

      ..And then there’s the baby.

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  7. lizw65 says

    FYI, Roco: Chris DIDN’T fall. He got off the balcony in time and got the purse with the epi-pen in it. A later scene with the party hosts confirms this.

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  8. Peanut says

    Roco, I chuckled my way through your review so enjoyed it very much & think that I agreed with everything that you said.

    I have no objection, per se, to Peter-Olivia, but I am not happy at the way in which the latest development was, well, developed. Olivia is ignoring the fact that Petah still has “feelings” for Fauxlivia. I guess that Olivia has been reading the Buddha-killing book and has come up with her answer—or maybe she’s been shaking her Magic 8-ball and checking it until she got the answer that she wanted. Not sure that it’s the “right” answer especially considering that she is not in full possession of the facts that Peter has been killing shapeshifters and that the “BundleOfDoom,” which someone referred to as the “Fauxtus,” is on the way. I guess the whole point, as Roco said, is that we need another baby, stat, to balance out the universes. Thanks writers. Consider the reading on my quease-o-meter ratcheted up another notch.

    Fauxlivia was bad at playing an alternate version of herself even with all of the files and videos on Olivia. That means that Petah was actually involved with a more or less authentic version of Fauxlivia, subtracting the murderous, treacherous aspects. He now knows about those qualities of hers yet still thinks about Faux. How he can extrapolate that “beautiful” relationship to what a relationship with Olivia would be like indicates that he still does not get the differences between the two Olivias. In addition, I wonder why Olivia did not shoot him on the spot for talking about the beautiful relationship that he had with someone else!

    Someone (blogger “Ted”) on Fringe Forum has an entire thread on the problem of Alice Merchant, which I thought was amusing: “Why didn’t Peter just slap the old lady, throw her over his shoulder, and run out”?

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    • Peanut says

      I can’t grasp why Peter & Olivia needed to come back from NY to Walter’s lab in Boston—just to witness Walter’s tantrum? Olivia & Peter could have stayed in NY—MD probably has a seismograph there (based on the fancy equipment that MD had in Jacksonville, I think so—and why weren’t the Fringies operating from there anyway?). Guess Walter had to get back to the lab for some Astrid-bashing. Really, isn’t it about time that Astrid quit taking Walter’s abuse? At least put ex-lax in his malasadas (they were in NY—surely they ran out for pastries while they were there), Asteroid.

      Great to have Walter-Nina (Wina, someone suggested) scenes. Walter needs someone to motivate him, & Olivia seems to be too preoccupied lately to fill that role.

      What did Olivia think of Boy Wonder’s mythology porn stash?

      A relief that Olivia is back on the booze again. I was beginning to wonder if Faux was influencing Olivia’s choice of beverages. In the bar scene, I was a bit concerned that Olivia seemed more interested in the french fries than the drinks but was relieved that she, par for the course, didn’t seem to eat any of them.

      Walter called Brandon that nervous fellow or something like that, but he didn’t seem like that to me—appeared laid back. I think about “Reciprocity,” with guns pointed at him, Brandon’s concern was whether he could swallow his mouthful of sandwich. He didn’t even seem worried that he might be in danger of being shot.

      Am I the only person who thought about whether Olivia could have just walked across to the AU from Alice’s apartment? (I know that she wouldn’t have done it, not wanting to get within the grasp of Walternate again.)

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    • says

      @ Peanut:

      Excellent post, points well articulated (and some funnies in there too!).

      A lot of my problems with this storyline also stem from the manner in which it has developed. I became somewhat invested in the first 8-10 episodes of the season, even though they took some liberties. The recent developments, however, are harder to swallow.

      “Fauxlivia was bad at playing an alternate version of herself even with all of the files and videos on Olivia. That means that Petah was actually involved with a more or less authentic version of Fauxlivia, subtracting the murderous, treacherous aspects. He now knows about those qualities of hers yet still thinks about Faux. How he can extrapolate that “beautiful” relationship to what a relationship with Olivia would be like indicates that he still does not get the differences between the two Olivias. In addition, I wonder why Olivia did not shoot him on the spot for talking about the beautiful relationship that he had with someone else!”

      You hit many crucial points. I also thought it incredibly strange that Olivia wasn’t at all perturbed by Peter talking about a “beautiful” relationship with another woman. I thought it was weird all round. It made little sense to me for 1) Peter to say that after “Marionette”, and 2) Olivia to almost take it as some sort of compliment.

      And the fact he thought it so “beautiful” is, for me, another indication of his feelings for Fox Livia. He wants to re-experience, to recapture the magic. But like you suggested, I don’t think he can truthfully separate the two Olivias. What did Walter call it? Entanglement?

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      • Peanut says

        Thanks for the feedback. I enjoy reading your reviews, observations, etc., and like to throw my two-cents in when I have some cents (or sense).

        Maybe Peter could establish a family compound in a remote area of Utah and found his own polygamous religion so he could have both Olivias & their miscellaneous children.

        I am neutral regarding Peter-Olivia, which I think must be not that common—most everyone else seems either for or against. (That said, I really don’t understand how Olivia could pass up PoorShirtlessFrank.) Anyway, I was willing to give the show the latitude to take us to P/O, until the writing, in my opinion, led us down some questionable paths so that we have now reached the point of apocalyptic sex (Quantum vortices & amberization, oh no! It’s the end of our world as we know it! Where’s the nearest bedroom? Last chance for sex.). At least it kinda seemed that way.

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  9. Zakray says

    “Plus, who doesn’t want to see Altlivia? ”

    * Raises hand*
    Although I can understand and enjoyed seeing the results on the otherside the fact that I loath Altivia really gives alot of credit to Anna Torv’s acting skills.
    I do wonder if Mr. Merchant came to the realization once he saw Altlivia that perhaps Over Here Mrs. Merchant was not HIS Mrs. Merchant. I also loved the white tulips placed in the backround behind Mrs. Merchant head on the end table next to the picture of the two of them. (White Tulips = True love). How great was that actress that played Mrs. M she was so beautiful and sweet.
    One last thing and maybe it will be explained further next episode but maybe Peter’s inability to ‘See into Altlivia’s eyes and not recognize that it wasn’t our Olivia’ is because of the lose of memory that both Peter and Olivia seem to have of their childhoods in Jacksonville. Peter noticed the differences, but doubted his initial instincts because when he first got here he knew they weren’t HIS parents but later seemed manipulated some how not to doubt it. Hopefully this next episode will shed some light on that. (I hope I explained that well enough)
    I also like you Roco in season one it never occured to me that Peter and Olivia would one day be an item but their relationship has slowly grown on me and (hangs head in shame) I have to say ‘Hi my names Zakray, and I’m a shipper’.

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  10. abulia says

    I agreed with you about Peter and the need to do more work. He has to earn Olivia again. I mean, it seems to me that it’s just Olivia the one who’s breaking the cycle going towards him and trying to break her walls. She’s the one who’s struggling and walking here. And Peter? He’s there, patiently waiting, and I’d say a bit haughtily too, that all universes’ Olivias fall for him (because it’s written in the plot). I love the idea of them together, I see so much potential, what I don’t love is the idea of a man who’s incapable to convince me of why he loves me (in this case why he loves Olivia); I know things are not always black and white, and I like Olivia taking the lead, because she’s the human hero here, but I don’t really like that tone of grey they’re using. So give the two of them more time, otherwise it is too much plot related. And Olivia Dunham telling Peter so easly that he’s right; And that beautiful future!? BRRR!!!! It was like imaginig Walter with only his socks…C’mon Peter!! I have to remember you, since Olivia didn’t, that the future you saw was with another person. Yes, another person!! Same face but another one. I mean, he’s still confusing the two of them! In all this I don’t see him seeing Olivia’s soul, and respect her. Until then…

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  11. real1 says

    Very good review as usual ,

    “”” * that “future” he saw took place with a woman who is not ‘his’ Olivia. Same DNA, different life stories. Sure, both capable of the same things (and I’m sure we’ll explore that idea further), but Peter seems to want to have his cake and eat it. There’s no way you say that to the woman you love.

    * Olivia seems to let this comment slide and claims that Altlivia took their future away from them. Peter throws it back in her face, “and now? Who’s the one stopping us now?” Ouch! This man’s got his foot out. Thankfully the universe calls to get Olivia out of a sticky situation. “”””

    I agree that Peter’s explanation wasn’t at it place , I mean Olivia’s point of view was ” she wasn’t me how you could not see that ” , and Peter’s point of view ” I’ve seen what… blah blah blah ! ” … which mean if you did die Olivia over there I will still living the life which i want with the alter you ..she is you so no difference if you live or die I will be with Olivia !!! and that’s my issue with Peter season 3 so far !

    I was surprised that Olivia did take this step and jump with Peter .. i think Olivia did fall in to Petavagenda !! , but I understand that the woman would like to prove that she isn’t the one who’s stopping them …. I think Olivia did a very good job , and Peter to now he didn’t prove any thing for Olivia only the mistakes , which is why I really really really would like to see his true feelings for Olivia without comparing her to Fauxlivia … ( she wasn’t her ) and the Beautiful thingi which he was seeing wasn’t with Olivia it was with Fauxlivia .. but the man couldn’t see the difference !!! .. i think in s4 we will see how Peter will suffer !!!

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  12. abulia says

    Right! i wonder if the writers are doing this on with intent or they’re good with Peter’s explanation so far. Someone tell them something please!!

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  13. augusta says

    Over here!over here! (* jumps up and down with hand raised*) Thanks for that Zakray. I too am ready to say goodbye to Fauxlivia, and all the complications she brings on… especially when I’m not sure what the writers are getting at with Peter’s feelings.
    Peter seems less than enthusiastic about Olivia, while she is ready to ignore the possibility that he isn’t that into her. I am happy that Olivia took the steps she did because it makes things more balanced between her and Fauxlivia, and it is indicative of her getting her (emotional) self-confidence back. I say “back” because like it was mentioned elsewhere, when the show started, Olivia was slowly taking those steps towards intimacy with John Scott, and her openness and smile were not unlike what Fauxlivia displayed. I can understand her confidence getting rocked by all the lies etc. that came with John Scott, but in the writers haste to highlight the differences between Olivia and Fauxlivia, they seem to have erased the existence of her vulnerable, smiling self completely (I’m not even going to go into her relationship with Ella…).
    @real1 & abulia
    Please put me on the list of those who think Peter is getting a free ride with his comments about “the two of them being beautiful” together. Oy. I hope Peter doesn’t suffer too much though. I don’t think Walter could take it.;)

    Thanks for the review Roco. I didn’t realize how addicted I was till this week, when I was checking the site obsessively for your thoughts… I’m on a totally different page than you as far as the Peter/Olivia/ (and *groan*) Fauxlivia thing goes, but I love how you break it down. I think my favourite scene was the coin flipping, when Walter first realized what was going on. John Noble is so amazing. And I’m glad you keep mentioning the team’s lack of proactvity — between Olivia’s powers and Walter’s brains (whatever % he has), and the fact that they have Peter with the machine, they could be really preparing themselves. Instead, they are just waiting around. With this kind of work ethic, the AU is going to kick their collective ass…
    sorry about the long-windedness

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  14. thatgirlfriday says

    “Nina gets Massive Dynamics top scientists on the Amber case. She gets Brandon working on it as well.”

    LOL!!

    Was it Walter that referred to Brandon as “that nervous guy?” Because that also made me laugh in episode.

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  15. abulia says

    Augusta, you mentioned Ella and Rachel… Well, their presence would have been a great cure to restore her self-confidence, while Peter was at a distance for a while: the best way to be honest with himself and understand why he fell in love with Olivia in the first place and how amazing she is even when she doesn’t laugh!! I like star crossed love stories, in fact I would like to see them apart for a bit, but I also like honesty and respect at the bottom of the heart…Pendent Peter doesn’t sound like that to me!

    Secondo thing, really awkward to me is Peter Universal fertilizer, not elegant and fascinating at all. I mean (aside the idea of Bolivia being pregnant to humanize her, which wasn’t really necessary IMO, for there was plenty of vicissitudes to throw at her in order to humanize her), are the writers really compelled to make our Olivia pregnant too (if they’ll do that and at least so soon), to sustain the thesis of the balance between universes? I’m thinking about Ella…She is the only one now and she will hopefully start a family, children, or simply her action will lead to consequencies that aren’t envisaged on the other side…

    Anyway, don’t ruin this love story…It doesn’t sound like that but I have shipper heart too!

    ps. Sorry for my uncertain English.

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    • augusta says

      “Ella and Rachel… Well, their presence would have been a great cure to restore her self-confidence”
      yes to this – having people around her that know her and love her without a doubt would have had such a good effect. Even if they had her mention going away on the weekend to see them or something — they could have worked that in.

      “understand why he fell in love with Olivia in the first place and how amazing she is even when she doesn’t laugh!!”
      and YES to this too. I wish I didn’t have to assume that Peter loves Olivia the way she is. I like the idea of them taking some time apart so that they can sort things out. Hearing Peter say something positive about our Olivia’s unique value would have made me feel better about them as a couple.
      Of course, if the writers are also making Olivia pregnant, then maybe “unique value” isn’t really their concern at the moment :)
      btw — your english is pretty cool. Really love how you put this bit:

      “really awkward to me is Peter Universal fertilizer, not elegant and fascinating at all. ”
      lol! so true and well said…

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  16. Owl says

    Roco,
    Your review this week was hysterical. A lot of funny commentary and excellent points. I actually appreciate that they showed a bit of AltLivia and Lincoln on the other side to show that these things affect both sides. I couldn’t help but think that our Olivia would have somehow gotten in to check on Derek’s apartment and would have known instantly there was more to his story. She has an intuition that AltLiv does not.
    Hurray for more Nina. I hope she’s in a lot more and that she has more secrets to reveal. Maybe I’m not remembering correctly, but I feel like they still have some explaining to do about Carla Warren’s death (besides saying it was a fire, was there ever more explanation about that, and why Walter ended up in St. Clare’s?) and I’m hoping the flashback episode might say something about that and more about Nina and Bellie.
    It does seem puzzling that Nina and Walter haven’t been aggressively seeking solutions at Massive Dynamic for the inevitable universe-crumbling to come. If they have been, it hasn’t really been articulated; I agree that the Fringe Team on this side is still largely reactionary.
    Thanks to all the comment-posters for your insights and thoughts…you’ve given several ideas I hadn’t thought of, and now I really am anticipating the rest of the season.

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  17. Madeline says

    Hi Roco,

    Thank you for writing up this great review. I can see that the Fringe fandom is somewhat divided by the Olivia/Peter romance(drama), and I am too. It’s not just because of the unfolding babydrama, and Olivia’s reluctance to let him ‘in’, in my opinion at this stage of the show, it jsu takes too much *time*.
    I do get what they’re both struggling swith and of course this is not something anyone can just forget about in 12 episodes, but Fringe just has so many questions that need to be answered, a war of the Universes to prepare for and amazing ‘minor’ character such as Broyles and Nina that deserve a lotttt more screen/plot time! I think that’s why this Peter/Olivia thing is getting kind of odl, for me.
    Especially seeing that last scene with Walter and nina, that damn near broke my heart, I began to wonder what their relationship was like. Would love to see Nina in some of the flashbacks, especially now that she admitted to Olivia that she and Bell had a thing. And then there’s her connection to Sam Weiss of course, I’ve always wondered for what reason she needed his counsel.

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  18. says

    “Especially seeing that last scene with Walter and nina, that damn near broke my heart, I began to wonder what their relationship was like.”

    Hi Madeline,

    I’m really glad you mentioned the above scene, and you hit an important point in that the show has a lot more to offer besides the Olivia and Peter drama. I’ve always felt that should operate more in the background of the show rather than the forefront.

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